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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Buy another EV for $5,500. Most the 292 used 500's are still under factory warranty.

    What are you going to do, when you engine fail. A new engine transplant is worth more then a 2012 ICE vehicle.

    What am I going to do when my engine fails?

    Why I am going to post about it here and rant and rave about what a piece of crap the car is, etc., etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedolph View Post
    What am I going to do when my engine fails?

    Why I am going to post about it here and rant and rave about what a piece of crap the car is, etc., etc.

    Tedolph
    How can you even tell when the engine fails in a pop? I drove one and assumed the engine had already failed. They are cute on the streets of Paris and Rome, but here they just shout "I couldn't afford a used Civic because I blame others for my problems."

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    Over a 5-year time frame with the newer EVs (i.e. not Citicar or Zap golf cart technology), this has not really been the case. The latest Volt and the new Bolt have the only really new technology that has shown up, and that's the dual rotor motor which will boost range 15% under the best circumstances. Aside from that, increased range today still comes with the exact same penalty it did in 2013, and that is extra weight of bigger batteries.

    Aside from that dual rotor motor, Lithium battery and electronics technology is much the same after 5 years. Cars like the Leaf have benefitted from better design, not new technology. A theoretical state of the art 2018 500e (i.e. not trying to be a Tesla) would like be designed with the same choices and compromises the designers made 2013.

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    They are practically obsolete once you drive them off the lot. Newer electric cars will keep offering better tech, batteries and driving range.

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    Volt and Bolt the only really new technology? How does a motor boost range? I would like to see some figures on kW consumption vs power at the shaft. The best way to boost range is to drive at a slow speed on a closed course without braking or accelerating. I can't find any published information on this "dual rotor" motor except that the Bolt drive train was developed by LG and has a completely different design from the Volt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by multiair View Post
    Lithium battery and electronics technology is much the same after 5 years.
    Density of battery capacity has increased about 50%, which is significant. E.g. 2017 BMW i3 has 50% more battery capacity fitting into the same space (the new battery can even be retrofitted into older i3).

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