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lmao!!!i'm happy to have something that has now depreciated faster than my house. Thanks fiat for making me feel like a lucky home owner again!
....like a miscalculation on the number of votes a candidate would get doesn't mean he lost the election?A miscalculation on sales projections does not mean the car is "disliked"
Yep, that's what bugs me - 20,000 cars is a good first year, and they turned a win into a loss by projecting 50,000 based on I-have-no-idea-what.A miscalculation on sales projections does not mean the car is "disliked"
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Now that fuel prices of stabled off and people have found other ways to pay for gas, people are maintaining their larger vehicles. In other words they have sacrificed spending in other area's so they can keep driving their trucks and SUV's and thats just ONE of the reasons this "recovery" is slower than normal- people are not spending. The only way people are going to flock to smaller cars is if only gas prices start to increase again rapidly and/ or being forced to by the 2025 50 MPG mandate.I think it's going to take a couple/few years for the market to "come around" on a car like the 500.
You always have to keep in mind that not too long ago, an SUV was "the car" to have. I can't imagine that the US market will ever be AS accepting of small cars as the EU market, but it certainly seems to be trending that way. Honda Fit, Ford Fiesta, Mazda 2, etc... these cars are making their way to market in the states and I think we're all still seeing the "early adopters" be looked at kind of funny.
True, but continual diving sales figures every month since it's launch indicates otherwise and is not good.A miscalculation on sales projections does not mean the car is "disliked"
That proves my point about J- Lo. I think its "most watched" not for it's advertising genius but more for the controversy it has stirred.Yep, that's what bugs me - 20,000 cars is a good first year, and they turned a win into a loss by projecting 50,000 based on I-have-no-idea-what.
The J-lo campaign may be disliked, but it's on another list as oneof the most-watched campaigns in 2011. I went to KY for a family funeral and, as an infamous car guy, everyone asked what I was driving. Fiat 500. What? The J-lo car. Oh! For better or worse, she's brought some brand recognition, though I hope we aren't as linked as Ricardo Montalban and the Chrysler Cordoba.
They quoted some negative comments, but there have been as many positive. From my reading, overall consensus is that it's a cheaper, roomier (I don't get Edmunds comment), more comfortable alternative to the Mini Cooper. Having driven the Mini, I'd say there's room for an alternative.
But most of the list is bunk anyway. How's the Honda Civic taking a beat-down for going bargain basement when I heard the same cries about the VW Jetta and that's not even on the list?
You realize that the Jetta sales destroyed all previous sales records for VW, right? Volkswagen's record sales for 2011 are pretty much singularly credited towards the Jetta.As far as the Jetta- it's quality has went to the crapper as well and it's sales have reflected it too. Both VW and Honda had better get on the ball and fast to compete in a tighter than ever market. Both models have lost their reputation which made them infamous and both have been the corner stone of their brand. You lose that image and you will be in deep.....
I think it's going to take a couple/few years for the market to "come around" on a car like the 500.
You always have to keep in mind that not too long ago, an SUV was "the car" to have. I can't imagine that the US market will ever be AS accepting of small cars as the EU market, but it certainly seems to be trending that way. Honda Fit, Ford Fiesta, Mazda 2, etc... these cars are making their way to market in the states and I think we're all still seeing the "early adopters" be looked at kind of funny.
A miscalculation on sales projections does not mean the car is "disliked"
So it seams....You realize that the Jetta sales destroyed all previous sales records for VW, right? Volkswagen's record sales for 2011 are pretty much singularly credited towards the Jetta.
Yea, I can blame them -- poor economy or not. Not meeting sales projections doesn't make the 500 a reliability risk (as they imply) nor does it make the 500 one of the most disliked cars in the minds of most people, including most auto journalists. It's not unpopular. People I encounter don't even know what it is when they see it, but that doesn't make it unpopular. It makes it pretty much unknown for now. Give it time.They're equating sales to success and popularity, period.
In a poor economy, can you blame them?