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how often do you guys recommend i change my oil? im trying to figure out what would be my yearly maintenance cost on the 500 when i pick one up.
 

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I wouldn't exactly use the factory recommendation. But instead use it just as a guide. Basically the harder you push your engine the sooner you should do the oil change
 

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thanks guys!!! ill definitely take those into consideration!! now all i need to do is learn how to do the oil changes myself. lol
 

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It wont help until you actually purchase and drive the car but you could get an oil analasis done.
Blackstone labs has a kit.
You send them some of the new oil going in during the oil change and tell them what and how you drive.
you drive a while(they tell you now long) and send in another sample.

you will get a report on how you oil is actually doing and they will tell you when to change the oil or ask for another sample at xxx more miles.

the testing is actually pretty inexpensive. and you will know when you need to change the oil for the rest of the cars life better than any guesses or idiot light on the dash.

the analasys tells you everything about the condition of your engine and the oil itself.

My last 3 cars had this done and remarkably the light on the dash of the 2004 Mercedes c230 I had was spot on with the 12,000 kms I could do with mobil1.

my 1998 Grand Prix gtp could go 10,000 kms on mobil 1. dash light said 6,000 kms
 

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When the oil indicator sensor on the dash tells you to change your oil. That would be a good idea to follow from the manufacture guide lines. Mine came on around 3,700k.
 

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I've done Blackstone analyses on several cars and per their readings, the oil (usually either dino-oil or Havoline Synthetic) was in excellent shape at 5,000 miles with plenty of life left in it. I normally changed at that point just as a matter or course.

I believe with the 500, the car tells you when you need an oil change based on your driving habits...
 

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Can I ask for opinions on an early oil change? I'm old enough, or old-school enough, to believe that I should change the oil at about 1500 kms/ 1000 miles. I know that Fiat will have me wait until 13,000 kms (something else in miles).

The cost is not an issue. Just wondering if others think there is any benefit in it.
 

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Can I ask for opinions on an early oil change? I'm old enough, or old-school enough, to believe that I should change the oil at about 1500 kms/ 1000 miles. I know that Fiat will have me wait until 13,000 kms (something else in miles).

The cost is not an issue. Just wondering if others think there is any benefit in it.
Mine and many have popped before the mentioned 8K mark, most at about 35xx-38xx to about 4xxx or so...least that's been what others here have been saying.
First oil change... I think 3500-4000 miles is perfect for the first change, having read a bit and how clean the oil seems to be staying after a bit of miles put on it I think you'd be fine if you get it in before 5K but closer to the 3500-4000 mile range. From that point I would look at following the cars advice and doing it when the oil change msg is presented or depending on the oil type approx. every 6 months or so depending on accumulated miles, the car will tell you of course so after the first as mentioned I think just listen to the car. Hope I did not miss the mark on your question and this is useful, if I did miss what you are asking my apologies and ignore everything prior to this last sentence...lol.
 

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Can I ask for opinions on an early oil change? I'm old enough, or old-school enough, to believe that I should change the oil at about 1500 kms/ 1000 miles. I know that Fiat will have me wait until 13,000 kms (something else in miles).

The cost is not an issue. Just wondering if others think there is any benefit in it.
I did my first change at 5000kms because I couldn't wrap my head around the 13000km interval. In European 500's the interval is somthing like 25000kms with synthetic. I'm splitting the difference and doing synthetic changes every 10000kms. Just my opinion, you will get many different responses regarding this topic.
 

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Thanks Tweak and Mvander. Your responses are helpful and welcome. I know there is a wide range of opinion.

In 1991 we had a Renault Clio in France. Even then, the first oil change was at 11,000 kms. 20 years of metallurgical and machining technology can certainly give another 2,000 kms of life. I did an early oil change on my 2000 Jetta, and the service dept, agreed that it was a wise move, even if not part of the advertised schedule.

My wonder is primarily about the first oil change; are there little bits of 'wear in' metal in the oil that should be removed with an early oil change.

But otherwise, why have a huge oil change interval, whether eight or 10 or 13 or 25,000 kms, if there is the 'or every six months' clause. I only drive 10 - 12,000 kms a year (6-8k miles). Seems to me that if a car is driven regularly, and the oil and engine fully warmed up to ensure that water is evaporated from the oil, then maybe the longer interval is correct, and the six month change is irrelevant.

I think there is only one crazy fool on this forum (Azurro color) that has done 22,000 miles since April or some such. (The man must never sleep, or else sleep in his car)

Picking up my Sport this afternoon! In the rain, no doubt. Ah the soggy sounds of Vancouver in the winter. And spring.

Thanks All,
 

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I will change it out once a year with Mobil 1 syn and less than 3000 miles on the odo
 

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Interval should go by the automatic notification on the car's EVIC - it really works.

The first oil change is not an interval, just like your first birthday is a lot different from subsequent ones. I did mine at 2k.
 

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how often you can change your oil and be safe and how often the warranty requires (at a minimum 6 months/8k miles..whichever comes first) are two different things. nobody wants to have a warranty issue on an engine failure and have questions as to why the oil was changed once in the past year. using the best synthetic oil in the world doesn't relieve one from the oil change interval called for by the manufacturer. im not saying it would necessarily be the cause of an engine failure, but it would be a battle that you wouldn't want to fight if it came down to that.
 

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how often you can change your oil and be safe and how often the warranty requires (at a minimum 6 months/8k miles..whichever comes first) are two different things. nobody wants to have a warranty issue on an engine failure and have questions as to why the oil was changed once in the past year. using the best synthetic oil in the world doesn't relieve one from the oil change interval called for by the manufacturer. im not saying it would necessarily be the cause of an engine failure, but it would be a battle that you wouldn't want to fight if it came down to that.
Amen to that. Last time I had my car serviced, they were surprised I wanted the oil changed after only 1573k . . . until I pointed out that it had been six months. If you are a low-mileage driver like me, I think it is sensible to use cheap oil and crucial to observe the six-month interval.
 

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did my first at 3670km(the dealer almost wouldn't). second at 9000km. I am pushing 14000 for my next and feeling pretty bad for it(just waiting for nice weather). If I hit 15500 before I can change, I will be doing a full engine flush but right now my oil is still Golden Clear...weird. As for advice on grades, unless you go Royal Purple, use dino oil; i'll get flak, but true synthetic was invented/perfected in 1943 for airplanes and has not changed since. Organic oil has been refined so much that a small change allows it to be called synthetic, but I'm not a specialist just a dealer. Also, unless you go with a synth filter, you have to change at 3500km anyway as paper/fake paper only lasts so long....5000 at the most.
 

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More important would be the oil level check because some car's main seal leak and it would be catastrophic to find out that the engine is dry 8k miles after the oil change.
 

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I was old school until i researched the new oils and the way new engines are being designed and built. With my 500 i'm following manufacturer's suggested interval of 8K miles (i already put 16K and it hasn't been a year yet). Before the first oil change, i was amazed at how clean and clear the oil looked.
 
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