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My review of the 500e

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After a month of ownership, here is my take on the 500e...


The Good
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Awesome driving experience
Great design
Good quality
Great infotainment system (fast, responsive, but I've made it crash a few times)
Well balanced interior space utilization
Comfortable seats
Large glove compartment
Great all-round visibility
REAL buttons for the air conditioning unit
Rear view camera, 360 parking sensors, LED lights, lots of safety features
One-pedal driving


The Bad
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Terrible parking procedure (not as smooth as normal cars, rather jumpy when switching between R>D and D>R)
Terrible road noise (typical for FIAT cars)
Wireless charging is a bit of a gimmic since road bumps take the phone out of its charging state
Changing driver profiles or valet mode takes a loooong time


The Funky Stuff
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Driver avatars! lol
Cool jingle music when the car is switched on/off
The infotainment shows the photos of all my contacts! Just hilarious
Also shows the album covers for all my mp3 music while streaming from my phone, nice!


PS:
My car doesn't play the operatic music, so nothing to report there. It only does the UFO sound at low speeds.
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My car doesn't play the operatic music, so nothing to report there. It only does the UFO sound at low speeds.
I bet it does ;) It's surprisingly hard to hear.
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Terrible parking procedure (not as smooth as normal cars, rather jumpy when switching between R>D and D>R)
Slow manoeuvring is jerky in 'Range', but much smoother in 'Normal'. It might help also to select R>N>D or D>N>R too.
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When I collected my car from new the phone charging pad was covered with a smooth plastic warning notice about not putting keys there etc. I’ve taken this out (kept it safe for the next owner). Now my phone doesn’t slide about on the rubber pad. Success!
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After 3 weeks of ownership here's my take on the 500e...

The Good
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Charisma - obviously subjective and beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but it's fun to look at, inside and out, and fun to drive
Short - easy to park and navigate up and down the multi storey helter-skelter
Functionality - packed full of features, particularly like the intelligent speed limiter
Charging schedule - works really well and reliably (compared to a Kia)

Could Be Better (haven't got a bad word to say against it)
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Speed management - when using the limiter it accelerates up to the limit then feels like it's braking to cut the speed. Other cars I've driven manage the acceleration to the limit more progressively
Sunroof - it's glass but there's a retractable shade that you'd expect to keep the sun out. It doesn't, so I'm going to have to add a protective film otherwise need to wear a hat. This must be the only car on the planet where the convertible is more effective than the hardtop at keeping the sun out!
Ride - a bit bouncy over undulations
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When I collected my car from new the phone charging pad was covered with a smooth plastic warning notice about not putting keys there etc. I’ve taken this out (kept it safe for the next owner). Now my phone doesn’t slide about on the rubber pad. Success!
Same here, but bumps on the road still shake the phone out of its charging position.
Sunroof - it's glass but there's a retractable shade that you'd expect to keep the sun out. It doesn't, so I'm going to have to add a protective film otherwise need to wear a hat. This must be the only car on the planet where the convertible is more effective than the hardtop at keeping the sun out!
Unfortunately it is not the only car. Every car I've owned (German cars, Italian cars, etc) all had this problem. Eventually I had them tinted, which helped a lot. I am talking about the strong sun we have in south of Europe (Spain/Italy/Greece/etc) so others may have a different experience.
Unfortunately it is not the only car. Every car I've owned (German cars, Italian cars, etc) all had this problem. Eventually I had them tinted, which helped a lot. I am talking about the strong sun we have in south of Europe (Spain/Italy/Greece/etc) so others may have a different experience.
What % tint did you select?
What % tint did you select?
If I remember correctly, I used 70% on the sunroof glass and 50% on the rear windows.

I think 70% was a bit much, since most visibility is lost, but it was the only solution to stop a scorched head :)
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Also, the more I use the car the more I realise that its range is truly abysmal :(

Maybe electric cars will be more usable in 10 years or so, but right now for the money we pay, their range is laughable.
Also, the more I use the car the more I realise that its range is truly abysmal :(
Maybe electric cars will be more usable in 10 years or so, but right now for the money we pay, their range is laughable.
Extreme words with which I really can't agree. Not least the 10 year prediction.
Whilst Fiat, using the defined criteria, claim 199 miles range, I knew that 150 miles was likely to be best achievable for my driving style.
150 miles on a charge is fine for my needs for a local journey car.
Already, there are EVs with bigger batteries and correspondingly greater range.
To the extent that there is currently no EV which provides the range and performance I need for my long distance car, I share @FiveOhOhE's opinion.
If I could afford only a single car, that car would not an EV. However, one short range EV and an ICE are best for my requirements.
Perhaps I'll go for a 1000bhp BEV Giulia Quadrifoglio in 2025, perhaps not.
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Also, the more I use the car the more I realise that its range is truly abysmal :(

Maybe electric cars will be more usable in 10 years or so, but right now for the money we pay, their range is laughable.
You must have been aware of the range when you bought the car.

I drove across the ‘buttertubs’ in the remote N.Yorkshire Dales yesterday from Darlington (steep inclines and descents, B roads and a bit of motorway; aircon on throughout) and averaged 5.1 m/kWh on the round-trip journey from Darlington; total journey 115miles (that consumption would equate to a range of 190 miles). I’m quite happy with that.
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You must have been aware of the range when you bought the car.
'Must have been' or 'should have been'?
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Also, the more I use the car the more I realise that its range is truly abysmal :(

Maybe electric cars will be more usable in 10 years or so, but right now for the money we pay, their range is laughable.
Well this post has generated a response :)

I think it depends on your journey types and expectations.

My previous car was a Kia Niro EV, which was our sole car and a bit of a compromise. It was a bit too big around town and even with a range of 280 miles not great for long journeys. So we sold that and got a FIAT 500e for around town and a Honda Jazz for long journeys.

The FIAT is doing 200 miles to a recharge and only goes 10 miles per day, so that's one charge at home every 3 weeks at 7.5p per Kw. Utterly brilliant.

The Honda has averaged 63mpg for its first 3,000 miles and can go 500 miles on a tank and recharge in 5 minutes. Utterly brilliant.

I've concluded that opting for 'a one tool fits all solution' was a mistake and better to pick the right tool for the job.
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Ya, even my 8-year-old 24kWh 1st-gen 500e has more than enough range to do an average daily drive TWICE on one charge.

If I want to take a long trip by myself, instead of with a friend in their higher-range car, I just rent.

Or I swap with my friend's Tesla 3 since she "really misses the 500e for zipping around town" which is all most of us do, most of the time.

Or I just drive to the airport.
Thank you all for your responses, one of the reasons I'm here, is to read about other peoples experiences and opinions.

Yes I was aware about the range limits before I bought the car, but it still got me by surprise at how limited its range really is compared to the cost of the car. Once you realise that the 500e costs nearly as much as 3 regular 500 cars then it becomes a novelty car for the few and not a "peoples" car that everyone can get.

My diesel SUV can do 530miles (~852km) in one go and costs less than half of the 500e.

I still think EV cars have a long way to go, maybe in 10 years they'll be cheaper and have better range but right now at current prices their range is abysmal :(
Yes I was aware about the range limits before I bought the car, but it still got me by surprise at how limited its range really is compared to the cost of the car. Once you realise that the 500e costs nearly as much as 3 regular 500 cars then it becomes a novelty car for the few and not a "peoples" car that everyone can get.
I'll admit the initial outlay is a bit steep but I'm not sure it's reasonable to relate range to acquisition cost. I could argue (assuming I charge at home) how surprised I am at how limited the range of a diesel SUV is based on £3 of fuel, currently 200 miles in my FIAT 500e.

Also a 500e is a bit more of a car than a petrol 500. Bit bigger, safer, more features, better performance, less servicing.
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It's now clear that @FiveOhOhE's concern was not really one of limited range, but more one of purchase cost.
Certainly, the price of an EV is significantly greater than an a comparable ICE.
One should perhaps consider things from Through Life Cost point of view (one interpretation of TLC).
An EV is, in many respects, cheaper to run than an ICE.
Even at today's inflated electricity prices, the kWh's are going to cost less than the fuel. If one has invested in a solar system at home and isn't using public chargers, the kWh's, in summer at least, are free.
Maintenance costs of an EV should be much less than an ICE, but some workshops are charging silly prices for EV services.

On the other hand, the depreciation of an EV expressed in £s or its monthly PCP payments being related to the car's price must be greater than for a ICE.
Further, if one is getting a solar system installed just for charging an EV, that cost should be included in a TLC estimation.

I have not attempted to compare the TLC of an EV with that of an equivalent ICE. I feel it is likely the EV is more costly, but perhaps not by much.

I bought a La Prima because I knew I should be getting an EV and because the La Prima best satisfied my requirements.
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I have to admit that I hadn't even thought of this until I read it recently:
  • Very few people pay in full for a new or used car. Instead they make monthly payments.
  • For an ICE they also have to make monthly petrol payments, & in an EV they pay for electricity.
When you include both monthly payments, buying an EV can cost less than an ICE right from the start, depending on how much you drive, & the cost of local fuel & electricity. I recently checked the monthly cost of buying used MINIs in California & it was less for the EV than the ICE.
Well this post has generated a response :) I think it depends on your journey types and expectations. My previous car was a Kia Niro EV, which was our sole car and a bit of a compromise. It was a bit too big around town and even with a range of 280 miles not great for long journeys. So we sold that and got a FIAT 500e for around town and a Honda Jazz for long journeys. The FIAT is doing 200 miles to a recharge and only goes 10 miles per day, so that's one charge at home every 3 weeks at 7.5p per Kw. Utterly brilliant. The Honda has averaged 63mpg for its first 3,000 miles and can go 500 miles on a tank and recharge in 5 minutes. Utterly brilliant. I've concluded that opting for 'a one tool fits all solution' was a mistake and better to pick the right tool for the job.
I agree-we have 4 cars; a Honda 4WD Pilot for the mtns in Dec-March or hauling stuff w/rear seats down; a VW Beetle conv with the 1.8 TSI turbo eng which surprisingly gets 33-35 mpg on the fwy but is a fun toy & only 55k mi at 10 yrs old; a MB 300C AWD for taking another. couple to dinner or long road trips; and our ‘17 500e which is absolutely perfect for a 3X12 mi island where most trips are 1-2 miles. But as an “only” car not a good fit. My grandson has an ‘18 Fiat 500e almost identical to mine, & his wife drives his Elantra so until I found it for him was stick with an 80’s vintage Chevy camping truck they use for rock climbing trips, which was getting 15 mpg-not a good daily driver! He loves his Fiat.
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