[Electric Tire Shredder]

On the other hand, 20 miles per week would only take about 48 minutes per week at the local public charger. I often do that at the free ones & just go online with my phone there instead of at home. Sometimes it's a nice change of scenery.

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

Your manual is here:

https://vehicleinfo.mopar.com/assets/publications/en-us/Fiat/2017/500e/1962.pdf

Page 144 (pdf pg 146) shows the units setting in the center touchscreen:

 

[Hotsun84]

It's not the box that matters, but rather the holes that the prongs go into. When their metal contacts get worn, it doesn't connect as well, & that creates heat, so the plug &/or outlet melts & shorts the wires. Then it "might" cause a fire at any point on the wires all the way from the circuit breaker panel.

Here's another one:
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So this is the outlet I'm plugging into. It's situated in a garden literally right outside my bedroom window. I can see those big red lights just looking out my window.

I also shut the hatch on the cable. It's really in there, not easy to pull out at all. I just hope it doesn't damage the cable. It's pretty sturdy (and looks brand new, the previous owner didn't know he could use it to charge at home 😆) but may get worn out with repeated use.

I could attach some very loud bells to it and anyone that would attempt to steal it would likely wake me up since it's basically right next to where I sleep. I just have to find some bells 😂

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

- Great idea about bells! But I hope you're only closing the hatch ONE click!

- That outlet looks pretty bad! Unless that's just dust on it, in which case I'd vacuum it out, plug in, & feel how warm the plug gets after several minutes of charging, especially if there's sun on it.

 

[Hotsun84]

The outlet likely has dirt on it, which is from the garden.

I just closed the hatch down. Didn't force it or anything and it shut completely, doesn't budge.

I'm leaving the car charging for the night, see if I can get it to 100% or at least get a good idea of what a nights worth of charging is.

I've noticed that the first two hours gets me more than 10% then it drops off after that

 

[Hotsun84]

This is the reading that came up after charging it up to 100.

I then took an 18 mile round trip drive and figured I would have about 75 miles left when I got back.

To my great surprise I had only 63mi. left which is wild. Even rounding up to 20 mi. I did not expect this. It came out to 32 miles round trip?! What gives?

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

15mV is about double the normal imbalance at full charge. You should take it all the way to 100% again to see if it's better after a second balancing procedure.

"What gives" is likely just that the miles gauge is extremely well-named Guess-O-Meter (GOM).

Nearly all of us ignore it completely & tell anyone who even mentions it that it's never worth mentioning, since it's only accurate if you continue until it's dead, driving exactly the same as the last 10 miles, including speed, braking, hills, traffic, wind, & outside temperature. Of course that is impossible, so it's impossible for the gauge to be right.

Also, above 90% charge it's much less efficient in the city. At 95-100% the regen is limited to only 5kW since the battery is too full to absorb the energy. Even below 95% it's limited to about 15kW. Below 90% I think it's unlimited. So for the 1st 10 miles or so it can burn a LOT more energy than in the next 10.

 

[Hotsun84]

Sorry I've been gone for a while. Been sick lol

These are my latest readings.

I've also noticed water in the driveway after moving my car. I've checked and there are no fluid leaks (just had all that repaired).

We've had a lot of rain and I'm wondering if it's pooling somewhere in the car so when I move it it spills out. I just don't know where it's pooling. My dad is freaking out about it but the car has been running great with no issues since I got the repairs.

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

That's MUCH better! Please confirm that you took it all the way to 100% again.

That would explain why it's now balanced within only 5mV, which indicates that you likely don't have any weak cells. To confirm that, I would take a reading the next time it's low, preferably around 20% or less, but even around 50% should give a pretty good indication.

Also, if you avoid taking it all the way to 100% the imbalance will increase again, so you should check periodically, & when it goes over about 10 or 15mV then take it to 100 again to correct it.

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

If your wall plug at home is getting too warm for comfort, & you can afford $125 for a new charge cord, click here:

Prevent Melted OEM Wall Plug

The 12 amp stock cord is faster than I'd prefer. The car is at 100% before I wake up, so if I'm not going to drive the next day, & I want to avoid sitting at full charge*, I have to do math and set the onboard timer. I'm also a bit concerned about the 1948 wiring in my apartment's garage...

www.fiat500owners.com

There's a great video of how rain water gets in, in post #9 here, & my possible solution which still seems to be working in post #15:

Rain water ingress

Hoping someone may have advice or a pointer... Found wet padding/carpet in the driver's side footwell. Must have been there for a while, but recent heavy rains made it obvious (heavy fogged windows and visible water under floot mat). After drying it out carefully (pulled up carpet+pad and...

www.fiat500owners.com

 

[Hotsun84]

That's MUCH better! Please confirm that you took it all the way to 100% again.

That would explain why it's now balanced within only 5mV, which indicates that you likely don't have any weak cells. To confirm that, I would take a reading the next time it's low, preferably around 20% or less, but even around 50% should give a pretty good indication.

Also, if you avoid taking it all the way to 100% the imbalance will increase again, so you should check periodically, & when it goes over about 10 or 15mV then take it to 100 again to correct it.

Yes it was charged all the way to 100%.

I'm noticing that whenever I charge it to 100% it gives me different mileage (95, 85, 90). I'm guessing it's just an estimate based on my driving (or maybe has something to do with the cells 🤔).

I'll show my dad the video of the water. I was pretty sure it wasn't the coolant since the levels are the same since the repair and I would definitely notice since it's hot pink lol

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

Your dad might want to open the hood, pour some water right below the wipers, & see where it goes down in front of the firewall. If it's running right against the metal he can try popping the little black funnel loose like mine, & see how the water flows then.

whenever I charge it to 100% it gives me different mileage (95, 85, 90). I'm guessing it's just an estimate based on my driving

Good guess. It is an estimate which can be so wildly inaccurate that it's pretty much never, ever even worth mentioning:

• When I drive to my friend's at the top of a steep hill & charge there it shows 80 miles, after which I can drive 96 miles on my regular route.
• When I drive downhill to sea-level & charge there it shows 140 miles, after which I can drive 96 miles on my regular route.
• When I drive to downtown L.A. & the traffic is 12mph for the last 10 miles, it shows that I still have over 100 miles of range left.

The gauge assumes that if you drive all the way until the battery is dead, for the entire drive there will be the exact same hills, weather, red lights, speed, etc., which of course is extremely unlikely: When traffic clears on the freeway I'm NOT going to drive 12mph!

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

...extremely unlikely, or downright impossible: I can't continue driving downhill from sea level! Or uphill from the top of a hill!

 

[Hotsun84]

That's MUCH better! Please confirm that you took it all the way to 100% again.

That would explain why it's now balanced within only 5mV, which indicates that you likely don't have any weak cells. To confirm that, I would take a reading the next time it's low, preferably around 20% or less, but even around 50% should give a pretty good indication.

Also, if you avoid taking it all the way to 100% the imbalance will increase again, so you should check periodically, & when it goes over about 10 or 15mV then take it to 100 again to correct it.

Here's what I got at 11% (about 8 mi range).

Also got myself some new floor mats from another fiat owner today. They are quite fancy and perfect for the rainy weather we've been having in socal this year.

Haven't noticed any issues with the outdoor plug, my car continues to charge well on it, even in this heavy rain.

Found another fiat owner around the corner from me with a level 2 tho. Seems nice to have one although not sure how much longer I'll be in this house.

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

Hmm. That's 33mV imbalance. Likely okay, as long as its not more than about 20mV at 20%, & down to about 10mV at around 30%.

 

[Electric Tire Shredder]

Haven't noticed any issues with the outdoor plug, my car continues to charge well on it, even in this heavy rain.

Nobody ever notices any issues until suddenly one time when it finally gets worn by the last time the contacts slid against each other & then they notice this:

Or this:

Rain might actually help keep it cool, which reminds me, don't EVER charge with sun shining on the wall plug.