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I know this thread will be helpful to a lot of people, well worth the effort I put into this :D



from Auto Blog:
We hear it all the time when we're out test-driving any of the current crop of subcompacts: "Is that little car safe?" Well, if it's a Fiat 500, our answer should be affirmative, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. The venerable independent testing agency has issued a Top Safety Pick award to the diminutive Italian cutemobile, which joins the Ford Fiesta as the only minicars to earn such praise.

The only caveat is that IIHS has specifically excluded 500's that were built before August 2011. According to the group, the driver's seat structure was modified to improve safety, and those cars without the improved seat were judged only "marginal" in the frontal offset test. The new seats help the 500 to score "Good" in that test, a rating the car also achieved in side impact tests and roof strength.

Fiat sales have been slow in the U.S., so perhaps this news might help Chrysler turn things around. At the very least, it will give owners a good answer to "What's going to happen if I hit you with my F-150?"
2012 Fiat 500 frontal offset test video
2012 Fiat 500 built after July 2011 40 mph frontal offset test

Overall evaluation: Good
2012 Fiat 500 frontal offset test video
2012 Fiat 500 built before August 2011 40 mph frontal offset test

Overall evaluation: Marginal










G - Good
A - Acceptable
M -Marginal
P - Poor


2012 models built after July 2011

2012 Fiat 500: good performance in front, side, rollover, and rear tests and standard electronic stability control


Injury measures

Structure/safety cage - G
Restraints/dummy kinematics - G
Head/neck - A
Chest - G
Leg/foot, left - G
Leg/foot, right - A

Important: Frontal crash test ratings can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight.

TEST DETAILS:
The Fiat 500 was introduced in the 2012 model year. Two tests of a 2012 Fiat 500 were conducted. In the first test, forces recorded on the dummy's head were high when it hit the steering wheel through the airbag, indicating that head injuries would be possible. Postcrash investigation revealed that a steel cross tube in the seat structure was pulled out at one end and contributed to the seat pitching forward during the crash and the dummy's head moving too far forward into the airbag. In response, Chrysler/Fiat modified the seat structure to improve occupant protection in frontal crashes beginning with cars manufactured after July 2011 (note: information about when a specific vehicle was manufactured is on the certification label typically affixed to the car on or near the driver door).

In the second test of a car built after the seat modifications were in place, forces on the dummy's head were reduced, but the driver door unlatched. Because the front end structure of the car was not affected by the seat modifications or the door opening, structure ratings are based on both tests.

Postcrash investigation indicates that the door opening occurred because the dummy's arm broke the interior door handle, and the access hole for a bolt at the dummy's elbow engaged and activated the door latch. The door opening in the second test is an artifact of the dummy arm construction. Therefore, it is unlikely that in an actual crash the door latch would be activated.

Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement appeared to be well controlled even though the driver door opened. The driver side curtain and side torso airbags deployed during the crash. During rebound, the dummy's head contacted the side curtain airbag.

Injury measures — Measures taken from the neck and chest indicate low risk of injuries to these body regions in a crash of this severity. Forces on the head when the dummy hit the steering wheel through the frontal airbag indicate that head injuries would be possible. Forces on the right foot indicate that foot injuries would also be possible.






- Action shot taken during the second of two frontal offset crash tests.

- In both tests, the dummy's position in relation to the steering wheel and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained very well (second test shown).

- In both tests, forces recorded on the dummy's head were high when it hit the steering wheel through the airbag. In the second test (shown), forces on the head were reduced somewhat.

- The dummy's arm broke the interior door handle, and an access hole for a bolt at the elbow (circled) engaged and activated the door latch.

ADDITIONAL FEATURES:

- Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front seat-mounted torso airbags

- Driver knee airbag: a separate airbag in the lower instrument panel designed to minimize knee injuries in frontal crashes

- Electronic stability control

- Antilock brakes

- Programmable daytime running lights

TESTED VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS:

- 2012 Fiat 500 Sport 2-door

- Class: Minicar

- Weight: 2,504 lbs.

- Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front seat-mounted torso airbags

- Wheelbase: 91 in.

- Length: 140 in.

- Width: 64 in.

- Engine: 1.4 L 4-cylinder

- EPA ratings: 27 mpg city | 34 mpg highway




Fiat 500
2012 models built before August 2011


Injury measures

Structure/safety cage - G
Restraints/dummy kinematics - G
Head/neck - M
Chest - G
Leg/foot, left - G
Leg/foot, right - G



TEST DETAILS:
The Fiat 500 was introduced in the 2012 model year. Two tests of a 2012 Fiat 500 were conducted. In the first test, forces recorded on the dummy's head were high when it hit the steering wheel through the airbag, indicating that head injuries would be possible. Postcrash investigation revealed that a steel cross tube in the seat structure was pulled out at one end and contributed to the seat pitching forward during the crash and the dummy's head moving too far forward into the airbag. In response, Chrysler/Fiat modified the seat structure to improve occupant protection in frontal crashes beginning with cars manufactured after July 2011 (note: information about when a specific vehicle was manufactured is on the certification label typically affixed to the car on or near the driver door).

In the second test of a car built after the seat modifications were in place, the head/neck rating improved to Acceptable, but the driver door unlatched, likely due to an artifact of the dummy's arm construction. Because the front end structure of the car was not affected by the seat modifications or the door opening, structure ratings are based on both tests.

Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement appeared to be well controlled, despite the problem with the seat structure. The driver side curtain and side torso airbags deployed during the crash. During rebound, the dummy's head contacted the side curtain airbag.

Injury measures — Measures taken from the neck, chest, and both legs indicate low risk of injuries to these body regions in a crash of this severity. Forces on the head when the dummy hit the steering wheel through the frontal airbag indicate that head injuries would be possible.






- Action shot taken during the first of two frontal offset crash tests.

- The dummy's position in relation to the steering wheel and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained very well (first test shown).

- In the first test, forces recorded on the dummy's head were high when it hit the steering wheel through the airbag.

- In the first test, intrusion into the driver's space was minimal, and all leg and foot injury measures were low. The dummy's knees and shins contacted the knee airbag.

ADDITIONAL FEATURES:

- Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front seat-mounted torso airbags

- Driver knee airbag: a separate airbag in the lower instrument panel designed to minimize knee injuries in frontal crashes

- Electronic stability control

- Antilock brakes

- Programmable daytime running lights

TESTED VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS:

- 2012 Fiat 500 Sport 2-door

- Class: Minicar

- Weight: 2,479 lbs.

- Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front seat-mounted torso airbags

- Wheelbase: 91 in.

- Length: 140 in.

- Width: 64 in.

- Engine: 1.4 L 4-cylinder

- EPA ratings: 27 mpg city | 34 mpg highway
 

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Found the Fiat 500 side impact crash test video!! Here it is.....

2012 Fiat 500 IIHS Side Impact

 

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Mothertrucker. Mine was built july 11th. :(

Anyone know if we can get a new seat ordered?
 

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Haven't really looked, but where is the date label? Door?
 

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Mothertrucker. Mine was built july 11th. :(

Anyone know if we can get a new seat ordered?
Pop, Sport and Lounge seats are all different. What modification could they be talking about that affects all the seats that would cause the car to have such a higher rating after than before?
 

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Pop, Sport and Lounge seats are all different. What modification could they be talking about that affects all the seats that would cause the car to have such a higher rating after than before?
Im just speculating but it might be the way the seat grabs onto the driver. I have yet to look at both models.
 
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