Ditto on lightweight wheels. But I also have a sweet spot for wheels that add a lot of eye candy to the car too. lol

I just swapped to some Advanti storms (from some circuit cp41). The storms are 3lbs lighter than the 13lb cp41’s.
Also… white cars FTW 😬

 

The 15" wheel and tire weight vs the original 17".

 

I bought these same wheels for my car this winter, and they've been great! I wanted to get a second set of wheels to run more aggressive tires for winter without needing to pay for tire changeovers twice a year. These were the least expensive wheels I could find.

I also bought these from Tire Rack and opted for closeout Bridgestone Weather Peak tires, an all-season tire rated better for driving in some snow than the OEM all seasons. I like the lighter wheels and having more tire sidewall, and despite the more aggressive tread the ride is nearly as smooth and quiet as the OEM wheels and tires. I will switch to the originals for summer (I leased the car so may as well use these!)

 

The other problem of big wheels with low profile tires is curbed rims ...

 

THANK YOU @blownb310 !!!

Thanks for confirming this works. I had already shopped for tires to fit ~11Lb. 15" Advanti Storm wheels on my 2024 500e.

If you still have the stock wheels/tires it would be great if you could do a 0-60 comparison for the light vs. heavy wheels/tires.

 

I am also thinking about some 15s. Any comments about width 6.0 vs 6.5?

 

Narrower is lighter, IF all else was equal, but the ones to try to beat are 10-to-11 pound 15x7s:

• ~11Lb $169 Advanti Storm (click here).
• ~10Lb $228 Enkei RPF1 (click here).

Please let us know if you find anything better.

 

Any modifications needed for 7 width wheels?

 

Not on my 2013. I'm checking my 2024 right now...

 

Oh! Nevermind! 2024 already has 7" width wheels, according to the legally-required-accurate Monroney window sticker.

 

Since @blownb310 has a stock wheel with the tire off, it should be easy to confirm the width at the outer edges of the tire bead seat (inner edges of the wheels' tire bead seat).

Ordinarily I'd expect the 7.0" spec to be accurate, but two different pages at FiatUSA.com showed 6.5"

 

Yes, the stock wheels are 17 x 6.5

 

How has the ride quality changed? Has the interior noise level changed?

 

Please clarify why you state that. It only says 6.5" in two places at FiatUSA.com but EVERYWHERE else that I've seen it says 7".

 

I guess you can fit 7" or bigger

 

Kinda did the same thing on my wife's '18 Pop...runs 16" alloys in the summer but it runs 15" winter tires on steel rims for when the snow flies. The taller sidewall is super nice to have due to all of the late winter/early spring potholes

 

I agree about the ridiculously large wheels often fitted to cars these days with low profile tyres leading to a harsh ride. I would love to have 15" wheels, but sadly in the UK we would probably have issues with insurance if we fitted non standard wheels.

 

Will all of the first-gen 500 wheels fit? Including the first-gen Abarth and first-gen 500e?

 

I saw the older bolt pattern is 4x98 vs 4x100 on the newer rims. Can anyone confirm?

 

I know that the auto companies have pretty much everyone brainwashed into thinking that huge wheels look cool. Every car made now has wheels that are much larger than they need to be. This gives a harsh ride, lowers efficiency slightly, and makes tire replacements very costly. I'm saying no to this silly trend and have downsized both my new 500e and my Bolt EV from 17" wheels, down to the smallest diameter that will fit, 15" wheels.

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To illustrate how grossly oversized the US market's 17" wheels are, all you have to do is look at this photo. That is a stock 15" 500 Pop wheel on the front. I use it as my spare tire.

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I sourced my new glossy gunmetal grey 15" x 6" MSW wheels [below] from Tire Rack. I am impressed that they are relatively light, at 17 lbs. [7.7 kg]. For comparison's sake, the original 17" Fiat wheels are 21 lbs. [9.5 kg] each. I got a great closeout deal on the Tire Rack on a set of low rolling resistance 185/65R15 Bridgestone Ecopia 422 Plus tires.

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The heavy original 17" wheels.

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I sourced these O.E. center caps from Ebay. They snap right into the MSW wheels.

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With the closeout sale, my commercial discount, and the $70 Bridgestone rebate for buying four, I only paid $47 each for these. That's cheaper than buying a single replacement O.E. tire for our cars!

Did you happen to have any issue with the lug bolts supplied by Tire Rack being slightly too long? The ones they sent with my wheels were quite a bit longer than the OEM bolts, and probably were fine for the back wheels with the drum brakes, but if I had snugged them into the front hubs the wheels would not spin- I contacted Tire Rack support and they said these were what were spec'd for that wheel and car. I ended up using the original lug bolts, as they still have enough thread length to work safely with these wheels. I thought at some point I would shorten the long lugs but haven't done it yet!

 

Did you happen to have any issue with the lug bolts supplied by Tire Rack being slightly too long?

Yes, and I did not use them. Like yourself, I simply used the originals.

 

The older 2013-19 bolt pattern is 4x98 & so are the newer 2024 rims:

 

The older 2013-19 bolt pattern is 4x98 & so are the newer 2024 rims:
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Fiat has used the 4x98mm bolt pattern since at least 1966. Some Alfas and Lancias as well. I currently have four cars in the family that use that bolt pattern, that tells you how much I’m into collecting Italian cars.

 

The aftermarket rim with 4x100 PCD would need more work, I think...

 

That vid shows EXACTLY what I did, except my tires are Conti ExtremeContact Sport 02.

It was really easy to hand drill with a bit from Home Depot, & centering rings were easy to find online.

If you can find specs for the Dial-in holes, they might not need drilling like the Storms.

 

To fit on a 4x98 hub, a 4x100 wheel needs at least 0.545" bolt holes.

My Storms came with 0.509" holes & I used a 9/16" drill bit because that still only removed 27 thousandths of metal around the holes' circumferences.

 

Are 4x98 harder to find? I haven't done the research yet.

 

Yes. Choices are extremely limited in 4x98.

 

Found a closeout sale

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...lack+Accent&showRear=no&autoMake=FIAT&autoModel=500e&autoYear=2024&autoModClar=

 

Okay, but they're 24Lb heavier, per set, than Storms or Dial-ins.

 

Yes, it is heavy but it is a 4x98.

 

Is it?

Or do they just supply "wobble" bolts?...

When I tell TireRack that my car is a 2000 Miata, it says the same MSW 60 15x6 wheels are 4x100 .

 

I do have my old Cp41’s for sale… if anyone is interested. 🤘🏼

/shameless plug 😬